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God is busy, may I help you? / Dieu est occupé, puis-je vous aider?

You can leave me a message in English or French, at the bottom. Click here. Yann 22:13, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

File:Fresh Hare (1942), screenshot, 42s.jpg

File:Fresh Hare (1942), screenshot, 42s.jpg has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Counterfeit Purses (talk) 20:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Cinematografica Victoria.jpg

Bonjour, je suis l'utilisateur Nipril, concernant le fichier nommé "Cinematografica Victoria.jpg", et votre prétendu droit d'auteur sur l'image, je dois vous informer que je n'ai trouvé aucune information concernant les licences respectives mentionnées, car les films produits par la société de production (y compris son logo) ne sont soumis à aucun type de licence en tant que tel dans le pays, de sorte qu'il peut facilement passer pour une image du domaine public. Je vous remercie de votre attention. Nipril (talk) 07:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Nipril: Bonjour,
Désolé, mais le copyright ou droit d'auteur ne fonctionne pas de cette façon.
De nos jours, presque tout est sous un copyright par défaut. Ce fichier n'est donc pas dans le domaine public, à moins que vous en apportez la preuve. Il sera donc supprimé à moins que vous donniez une licence valable. Pour cela, donner la source exacte, la date et l'auteur est nécessaire. Si vous avez besoin d'aider, vous pouvez demander sur Commons:Service d'aide ou Commons:Bistro. Merci de lire COM:L (ou la traduction en français). Cordialement, Yann (talk) 15:37, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bonsoir, le problème est que je ne saurais pas quelle preuve vous donner, étant donné qu'en soi (comme je vous l'ai déjà dit) il n'y a pas de données sur l'auteur responsable du logo de l'entreprise, et de même pour les licences, la seule chose que je pourrais dire est que le logo est probablement apparu pour la première fois dans un film au milieu ou à la fin des années 70, mais pas beaucoup plus que cela. Mis à part le fait que j'ai capturé l'image elle-même à partir d'un de leurs films. Désolé pour le dérangement, j'espère que vous comprenez que je cherche désespérément l'auteur original du logo, c'est pourquoi j'ai créé l'article en tant que tel. Je vous remercie de votre attention. Nipril (talk) 22:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User:Vichycombo

Hi Yann. Despite a warning a couple of months ago by you, Vichycombo has continued to upload copyrighted recordings of anthems a pace. There is now far to many to go through each but after sampling of a few I'm yet to find one that isn't an obvious copyvio. Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 07:36, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

✓ Done Blocked for 3 months, and Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Vichycombo. Thanks for the report. Yann (talk) 15:31, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyviol and fake names.

Hi, please note these photos, already deleted in the past and with fake titles. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cesso.jpg and https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Belluddo.jpg Moxmarco (talk) 13:45, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

✓ Done Blocked for a week, files deleted. Yann (talk) 15:26, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright status: File:Colmenas sobre Paterna del Río en los años 1950.png

Dear Yann, I have just read your message. This photo you marked was taken in the fifties by my grandfather, who passed away back in 2008. If you think this image should not be here, please feel free to proceed and delete it. --JJ - Schumi4ever (talk) 16:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Schumi4ever: Then it is probably OK, but could you please add the author and a license? Thanks, Yann (talk) 16:43, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Flickypedia soft launch and a huge thank you

Dear fellow Commons photographer,

I hope this message finds you well. As you might already know, the Flickr Foundation has been busy creating a new Flickr-to-Commons bridge (“Flickypedia”) this year. After a successful demo at the GLAM Wiki Conference in Montevideo, the Flickr Foundation team is now inviting all members of the Commons Photographers User Group to be the first to review their alpha, reporting any technical issues or other feedback via the Flickypedia project talk page.

At the same time, this message is an opportunity for me to thank you for your trust and support over the past couple of years. Since 2017, we've grown into being one of the largest user groups in the Wikimedia universe. I've tremendously enjoyed interacting with all of our members when it came to joint photowalks at Wikimanias, virtual Zoom meetings where we covered a wide variety of photography topics, as well as our annual “Most memorable shot of the year”, among many other events. As I'm not running for an official position in our current board election, this will be my last message on behalf of the user group to you. Thanks for all the happy moments we shared together over the years! I hope you'll continue creating free images for the millions of people we serve through Wikipedia and Commons.

All the best, --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 19:36, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MOTD Notification
⭐ A file you uploaded is on the main page! ⭐

File:Panorama depuis la Brèche de Faraut.webm, that you uploaded, is on the main page today. Thank you for your contributions to this project.

//EatchaBot (talk) 00:01, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Notification about possible deletion

Some contents have been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether they should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at their entry.

If you created these pages, please note that the fact that they have been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with them, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

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Yours sincerely, A1Cafel (talk) 03:46, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Moving a file to Commons

Hi, Yann - would you please take a look at this file: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MeadowoodOldOrchard.jpg It appears to me the license is valid and I'm not seeing anything there to prevent if from being added to Commons. Atsme Talk 📧 17:12, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done already. Yann (talk) 17:25, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Undeleting Soviet postcards

Dear sir, when undeleting, you've missed a few:

-- Wesha (talk) 02:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I'm saying that you personally undeleted MOST of the files from the category but not ALL of them, while there's no distinction between the two; I assume you just missed some of the files. The undeletion decision is here. -- Wesha (talk) 16:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • To be more specific: if you navigate top the page and scroll down to the "Other versions" section, you will see that the front side of the card has been uploaded, but since has been deleted (in that now-banned, thankfully, User:PlanespotterA320's bout of destructive activities). -- Wesha (talk) 16:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • ✓ Done I didn't see the association with the backside of each postcards. Yann (talk) 17:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Undeletions

Hello Yann, I noticed that you Team kits at the UEFA Champions League on a speedydel. The fact is that I created it on purpose in order to stay consistent with the category tree of UEFA Champions League. An user didn't like it and put it on speedydel instead of discussing the options. -- Blackcat 19:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

✓ Done OK, fine. Undeleted. Yann (talk) 20:35, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Popeye The Sailor - Ancient Fistory (Full Episode - High Quality).webm

File:Popeye The Sailor - Ancient Fistory (Full Episode - High Quality).webm has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry.

If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues.

Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!
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Nosferattus (talk) 16:15, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Argo Blockchain Helios Facility.jpg

Bonjour, Je viens de voir passer cette Deletion request. Quid de File:Argo Blockchain Mirabel Facility.jpg? A455bcd9 (talk) 17:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@A455bcd9: I couldn't find an earlier copy on the Net, but feel free to nominate it if you do. Yann (talk) 17:20, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
OK I have no opinion on this so I won't nominate it, I only wanted to re-use the image and I was afraid it may be deleted soon as well for the same reason. A455bcd9 (talk) 17:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Simplement.. Merci !

Bonjour Yann,

Merci pour la suppression et j'en profite pour saluer ton très gros travail (souvent de corvée) sur Commons notamment. Passe un très bon week-end. ;) Tisourcier (talk) 15:27, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What is happening

Hi, Yann. What's happening? You reverted several of my taggings. In the past (not very long), you deleted several files I tagged as unsourced. I understand Geo Swan coming to hunting me, because that's what he is. He was indef. blocked in en.WP exactly because of this kind of behavior, but you? Some of the files I tagged, and you reverted, like File:Talismã.jpg, are obvious not "own work" and don't have a clear source. This is very very likely a copyvio. Others like Commons:Deletion requests/File:Wave to earth (2).jpg is a picture of a South Korean band, without any metadata, uploaded by a user from Brazil. This is, again, very likely taken from the internet. My work here is close related to my work at pt.WP. Most (if not all) of these uploads are from unreliable accounts. Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 20:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kacamata: Hi,
Thanks for your message. Yes, I agree that File:Talismã.jpg is certainly not own work, but it has a (wrong) source. It would be better to create a proper DR, which I did. Depending on the date and the country, it might be OK. Idem for File:Wave to earth (2).jpg. Regards, Yann (talk) 21:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Normally, I tag files that are clearly not own work, have no metadata and were uploaded by an unreliable account as unsourced. Should I start creating a DR for all these kinds of files? Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 21:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kacamata: At least, "no permission" is better than "no source". Yann (talk) 23:33, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Normally, I tag "no permission" when the metadata indicates that the image was uploaded by another person. I, honestly, have no issue starting a DR for every improper filled/likely copvio/taken from elsewhere image that I find here, but I think it's a waste of others people time, since, as I stated before, most of these images were uploaded by unreliable accounts. But, in these cases, it's better to tag as no permission or start a DR? Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 23:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:Kacamata, when I looked, a couple of days ago, I found 30 images you recently tagged with {{No source}}. You have asserted that they were all "clearly" not own work. I said I did not see the basis of your concern for File:Igreja paroquial de Lamelas.jpg, for File:Coração do Penedo do Cavaleiro.jpg, for File:Altar do Teixo e Stª Bárbara.jpg, for File:Bolos Podres de Lamelas.jpg. You haven't taken the time to go to their DRs to explain yourself.
So, I am skeptical of your bold assertion that ALL the "own work" images you tagged with {{No source}} were "clearly" not own work.
I took about ten minutes, and made a rough search through your contribution history, for how many edit summaries showed you tagged an image as {{No source}}. You did this about 2000 times. If your error rate on the first 2000 was the same as it is on last 30, I'm afraid your tagging triggered something like 300 completely valid images to be deleted.
Kacamata, you asserted I was "hunting you". Your tagging pattern triggered my concern. I've told you why, and I did my best to tell you politely. You said " Most (if not all) of these uploads are from unreliable accounts." Aren't these individuals entitled to have you tell them what they did that triggered your concerns? Now, maybe you did tell them, on the Portugese wikipedia. But, don't you think you should explain your concerns here too, so Yann and I, and other third parties can read your explanations, and reach our own conclusions as to how valid they are?
Kacamata, I dispute I was "hunting you", since I told you what triggered my concerns. But, if you target the contributions of these people, nominate their contributions for deletion, without fully explaining yourself, based on, well, prejudice against them, do you think they could say you were hunting them? Geo Swan (talk) 01:35, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yann, if you allow me, I'll completely ignore Geo Swan message. If this talk page was mine, he would be reverted. I told them several to not send me any messages. I don't want to talk to them, because I don't believe they act in good faith, their history in the en.WP says all you need to know about them, what they are and what is their proposal here and in any WMF project. I'll not address "their concern" as I don't really care about what they think about me or my contributions in this project. I'm only interested in your opinion and advice here, because I believe in your good faith. Thanks for taking your time to answer me until now, and I'll be very open to listen to you if you want to answer my last message. Again, thank you very much. Kacamata! Dimmi!!! 03:21, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Yann, I too believe in good faith. I don't know what justification Kacamata thinks he has to challenge whether I operate in good faith. Yes, I was blocked on en.wiki. That block came after a mounting off-wiki hate campaign that lasted a decade. I didn't do what my accusers claimed I did. Not even close. I don't know what Kacamata thinks my en.wiki history shows. For many years I worked on very controversial articles. In doing so I put in considerable extra effort to show good faith, and patience. I think that is what my en.wiki record really shows. Nevertheless, because the topics were controversial, my efforts triggered animosity. I won't apologize for asserting I don't think I deserved that animosity at all.
  • I believe every contributor on a WMF project, from Jimbo Wales on down to the barest newbie, should feel an obligation to act accountably. They should be able to either explain their edits and comments, or own up and say they made a mistake. Kacamata has asserted they only ignore uploader's "own work" claims when they are "clearly" bogus. I asked about 1 2 3 4 files they tagged where I thought the own work claim was credible. I think if he or she can't explain why they challenge these own work claims they should withdraw their claim they only apply {{Nosource}} when own work claims aren't credible. Geo Swan (talk) 04:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kacamata: Where this is the slightest possibility that the file is OK for Commons (for whatever reason), a proper DR should be created, e.g. File:Grêmio Recreativo Cultural Escola de Samba Mocidade Alegre.jpg. This is not own work, but the image is in the public domain in Brazil. Yann (talk) 10:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kacamata: I draw your attention to my update on Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Daniela_Pierre_Firme.jpg. You have stated or implied, here and elsewhere that your gut feeling a contributor is "unreliable" is sufficient justification to tag their images as {{No source}}. I'd like you to further explain and defend this justification for speedy deletion. In particular, I think these individuals deserve to have you spell out your concerns. First, it could be a simple misunderstanding; or second, it could be you had valid concerns, but they just didn't know any better, and will curb their behavior after your explanation of what they were doing wrong. Geo Swan (talk) 16:20, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:18 novembre 1870, combat d'Illiers..jpg

Can you make out the name in the signature? Looks like Maurice and a surname that starts with P? Abzeronow (talk) 21:14, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Abzeronow: It could be en:Maurice Pillard Verneuil. Yann (talk) 21:31, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And it seems there was also a Maurice Palland, working in that area with the same kind of subject. Yann (talk) 21:43, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am not sure it is Maurice. Seeing [1], it could be Manuel ou Meunier. Yann (talk) 21:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I suppose Muriel might also fit. Abzeronow (talk) 21:55, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Wave to earth (2).jpg questions...

You offered an image in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Wave_to_earth_(2).jpg&diff=prev&oldid=831811966 this comment] of these musicians "wearing the same clothes".

And, in [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Wave_to_earth_(2).jpg&diff=next&oldid=831811966 your closure] you offered another image of the musicians wearing the same clothes.

Do you see these images as undermining the credibility of [[User:Leonor Gonçalves Rodrigues]]? Fans had an opportunity to take photos of the band. You found two fans who uploaded their photos to pinterest. Can I ask, do you think the existence of similar images, from other people, confirms [[User:Leonor Gonçalves Rodrigues]]'s own work assertion aren't credible? Yes, she might have copied an image from a place like pinterest. Or she still might have taken the images at the concert, just like she claimed.

You closed this discussion. Did you forget that you also opened it? Isn't it the normal practice to wait for a second administrator to close discussions one opened? Geo Swan (talk) 01:41, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Was the second image a duplicate of File:Wave to earth (2).jpg? Okay, an actual duplicate would have merited speedy deletion. But, in cases like that, in future, may I request that the deletion log says "copyright violation", not "per nom"? And that your closure also state "copyright violation"? Once the image is deleted a guy like me is merely going to see that it was similar.
So, was the second image an actual duplicate? I used tineye, and it didn't find any duplicates. How did you find it? Thanks Geo Swan (talk) 02:55, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See the link I provided in the closure. It is the same image. So as a small image without EXIF data with copies on the Net, a speedy deletion is appropriate. If the uploader is the author, a permission via VRT is needed (probably with the original image with EXIF). I edited the DR, so that it won't be confusing. Yann (talk) 07:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks! Geo Swan (talk) 09:04, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User doesn't understand concerns with his uploads

Yann, I see that you declined Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current requests#H_Baudu_wiki.jpg, and are a native Francophone, so I'm raising this issue with you instead of Didym, who I originally started writing to.

Didym deleted that and another file uploaded by Superka2711, leaving a message on the user's talk stating licensing grounds. The user doesn't understand the issue and instead of asking, has filed the undeletion request and has asked (in French) on English Wikipedia at the Teahouse noticeboard for new users. I see that the user is writing a biography—the statements at the Teahouse suggest it is an autobiography—in his sandbox on French Wikipedia, and has uploaded File:Hervé Baudu Ensm.jpg to illustrate it. Can you please explain to him in French what he needs to do to establish the right to use the image and to release it under an appropriate license? I'm going to note at the Teahouse discussion and/or one of his Wikipedia talk pages that I have left you this note. Many thanks. Yngvadottir (talk) 11:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yngvadottir: Hi,
There may be 2 issues here. First if this is not a selfie, the copyright is owned by the photographer, so a permission is needed.
But more importantly, I am not sure this person is notable enough to have an article, and this user has no edit except his autobiography. So the image is out of scope for Commons. Regards, Yann (talk) 11:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for responding! I'm getting all tangled up in my rusty French trying to leave the editor a message on his talk page at en.wiki. He seems to be completely new; just welcome templates on both Wikipedia user talk pages. I agree about the draft, autobio or not, but it's in user space and French Wikipedia can deal with it anyway if they need to. On the image, that was my thinking, although given the subject's profession I suppose there might be the "military photographer in performance of their duties" exception to copyright. (Or taken on a timer?) But the problem is, the user appears to not understand at all what the problem is. I'm not sure whether he clicked through to see a translation of the speedy deletion notification template he received. But it's apparent that he needs a plain-language explanation in French that he needs to have pressed the button himself; and that he should upload it on French Wikipedia, not Commons. Yngvadottir (talk) 11:51, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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