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Tried to use my own images for Wikipedia but identified as copyright violation[edit]

Thanks a lot for all the timely help regarding my own artwork. Given the complexity involved, I decided to stop here and retract what I asked. Once again, thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnurs (talk • contribs) 01:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Volunteering[edit]

How to volonteer and add tags to images ? Vilahh (talk) 19:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Vilahh: we don't really have anything here that we normally call "tags" (other than license tags, and you can't add those to someone else's image). Could you be more specific about what you have in mind? - Jmabel ! talk 20:48, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vilahh: If you want to categorize images, take a look at Commons:Categories. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talkcontribs) 22:42, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually I want to volonteer on wikicommons but I don't know what I can do to get started. Vilahh (talk) 06:06, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vilahh: well, none of us can guess what you know something about! Is there anything where you'd say you have more knowledge than an average person? E.g. are you from somewhere that we might not already have very well covered, or study something or do something for a living that means you know something about something? Do you happen to be able to read and write a language that not so many people know, and could translate into that language either from English or from some other major world language? Happen to be more than routinely knowledgeable about cars, or some sport, or about the clothing of a particular region, etc.? If you can say what you know something about, then I can almost certainly give you a good place to start. - Jmabel ! talk 06:19, 6 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm knowledgeable about religions. Vilahh (talk) 07:14, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vilahh: you could help categorize currently uncategorized images. For example searching churches without categories finds File:Church of St. Flannan, Killaloe - altar.jpg which should most likely be in Category:St. Flannan's Cathedral, Killaloe. It could also be included in Category:Interiors of cathedrals in Ireland, Category:Altars in Ireland and Category:Crucifixes in the Republic of Ireland. You can find plenty of similar examples. Other religions have similar categories. MKFI (talk) 15:24, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you Vilahh (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Vilahh: Also, if you take photographs at all (or are inclined to, and photos taken with a phone are fine): are you willing to say where in the world you are? There are a lot of things we need photos of almost anywhere. - Jmabel ! talk 20:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Maneskin[edit]

[1] - this image is uploaded from YouTube, but couldn't find it in the provided link and doesn't seem YT uses such CC license. Please check if is a candidate for deletion or is alright and can be used on Wikipedia etc. Miki Filigranski (talk) 20:26, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Miki Filigranski: Hi, and welcome. I tagged File:Måneskin, Damiano David, Victoria de Angelis, Thomas Raggi, et Ethan Torchio.jpg for deletion for two reasons. Please use internal links.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 20:40, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks.--Miki Filigranski (talk) 03:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Mislabeled and Misrepresented Photo[edit]

File:Yakan.jpg#globalusage

Hello, the photo here is listed as a photo of a "Yakan couple," with the implication in that description and in the use by the various pages that this is a couple from the Yakan tribe of people in the Philippines. However these are not Yakan people, as these are two dancers from the Filipino-American dance group I am a part of called LIKHA Pilipino Folk Ensemble during a performance. Here is an image of the male person in the Yakan photo from 2023: second man from the left in black. Although the original Yakan photo in question was apparently taken in 2008, you can likely see they are the same person, but of course more confirmation can be provided if need be. They are both American, and are representing a Yakan couple in a performed dance in the photo. We don't necessarily need the photo to be removed from all these pages, as the representation of the Yakan culture to my understanding is fairly accurate, as it is based on research trips to the Yakan people. However we would like that the photo somehow be clarified as not of a Yakan tribesperson, but specifically a representation of Yakan people during a performance or by Filipino-Americans.

How can we go about 1) confirming that they (the two dancers indicated in this photo) are not of the Yakan tribe, and 2) editing the description on the wikimedia page and the uses on various wikipedia pages to more accurately reflect the nature of the photo, considering we are not the copyright holder and do not seem to know the original taker of the photo as indicated on the wikimedia page? SamuelMinioza (talk) 22:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@SamuelMinioza: given that the user who uploaded that photo hasn't edited Commons in over a decade, I'm going to presume there is no chance of getting hold of them. I'd say it's pretty clear just on internal evidence that File:Yakan.jpg looks like a photo of professional or near-professional dancers in performance rather than a candid photo of people simply dancing, particularly so given File:Paragua.jpg uploaded the next day by the same user. So I'd suggest that you can feel free to edit the description accordingly, and to contact the various wikis on the talk pages of the respective articles (or, if you find something actively miscaptioned, edit it yourself.)
I see you are new here, so I'll permalink your remarks above from the talk page of the photo, which can be a bit tricky to do. Let me know if there is anything else in this process with which you'd need help. - Jmabel ! talk 07:45, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chequea la imagen[edit]

Buenas, necesito que un administrador chequea la imagen File:Logo Laser Airlines (2018).jpg esa imagen fue publicado en Flickr y tiene licencia AbchyZa22 (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @AbchyZa22: He hecho esto, pero en el futuro use el mismo tamaño y fondo que en Flickr, para que un bot pueda hacer esto sin perder tiempo de administrador. Si luego desea crear una obra derivada, hágalo después de que la licencia ya esté establecida en Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 07:58, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Jmabel: Buenas una cosa,si este logo File:Logo Laser Airlines (2018).jpg fue chequeado por un administrador (está OK),es posible que un administrador no removerá la imagen??
    AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:46, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    * No entiendo su pregunta. He chequeado el logo. Como ¿iquest;es posible que un administrador no removerá la imagen? Lo aprobé. Claramente no intento removerlo. - Jmabel ! talk 03:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Jmabel:Buenas, por favor chequea la imagen File:Autocrine and paracrine effects of exercise-regulated human myokines.png si la licencia esta OK,por favor.
    AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @AbchyZa22: No estoy a tu entera disposición y llamo para comprobar las imágenes. Por favor deja de pedirme que lo haga. ​Está marcado para ser chequeado. Alguien llegará a hacerlo.- Jmabel ! talk 01:47, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why can't I not up load this[edit]

I would like to up load the following but after I upload this as a pdf file, in the description bar it will not let me? What can I do to upload this information? [REDACTED] Michael Bretten MBMMedia.USA (talk) 01:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MBMMedia.USA: Something like this is certainly not within the scope of Wikimedia Commons (COM:SCOPE). Something like this might belong in the English-language Wikipedia, but it would (at a bare minimum) need to be formatted into paragraphs and have inline citations. At a glance, I can't tell whether the above shows enough independent sources writing about them (and not just in passing) to establish notability. Since this isn't even the relevant website, I'm not going to spend a lot of time trying to work that out. Also, since I suspect you may be related to the subject you are writing about, do read en:WP:COI and especially, if you are being compensated by the subject of the article or someone connected to them, en:WP:Paid-contribution disclosure. If you are, indeed, connected to the subject of the article and don't do that, you are very likely to find your account blocked on en-wiki, who are very strict about this (much more so than Commons). - Jmabel ! talk 08:10, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image tagging PP template[edit]

I got permission by the copyright holder to upload some files, which I did (e.g., [2]). Now, according to the help, the copyright holder is supposed to use the Commons:Wikimedia VRT release generator to release the images. But how do I tag the images in the meantime? The help on Commons:Volunteer Response Team is of no help because it only talks about emails, instructing to use the {{subst:PP}} template, but that template only is for emails send to the orts team. How do I tag the images so that they won't get deleted before the copyright holder can release them? Thanks, Jens Lallensack (talk) 13:00, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jens Lallensack: Hi, and welcome. In the future, you will need to put {{subst:PP}} in the permission or license section of the file description page File:Rescue H. Markhami.jpg like I have done here. That produced "{{Permission pending|year=2023|month=December|day=9}}".   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you. Will do as you said. Jens Lallensack (talk) 14:33, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jens Lallensack: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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J'aimerais importer un fichier MP3 , Hymne de notre université[edit]

J'aimerais importer un fichier MP3 , Hymne de notre université Akimkasongokarunesh (talk) 13:51, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Bonjour, Le téléchargement de fichiers mp3 est réservé à ceux qui disposent d’un certain droit d’utilisateur. De plus, tout enregistrement sonore que nous hébergeons ici doit être sous licence libre ou relevant du domaine public en ce qui concerne la composition et l'interprétation. Lorsque vous aurez acquis une certaine expérience en édition sur ce site, n'hésitez pas à demander autopatroller à COM:RFR. Abzeronow (talk) 16:20, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wokimidia[edit]

What is the important of this page Mahmud80 (talk) 11:05, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Mahmud80: Hi, and welcome. Wokimidia does not exist, so it is not important. If it did exist, it might be some sort of digitally musical Asian cooking device. Commons:Help desk is here to serve all Commoners with helpful answers to their Commons-related questions. More to the point, please see en:Wikimedia.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:16, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit war over copyrightability of simple text[edit]

There are these image files whose content is clearly not copyrightable, at least for a great many of them: text content that doesn’t remotely meet the threshold of originality (for the ones I touched mostly “abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz0123456789” and/or “The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog”), set in some arbitrary font, with the images even generated by a simple computer program from the digital font file and one or two minimal user inputs. Hundreds of them are tagged with some CC license and/or GFDL, which are based on copyright. So I'd say, these license tags are stating unjustified and misleading copyright claims and should clearly be removed. Since Commons is a wiki, I invested some time just fix this myself, and am now facing angry threats, ridicule and the start of an edit war. How to proceed from here?.. Requests for comment@meta?

Also, perhaps somebody can shed some more light on the claim, whether all SVG files can have copyright protection as computer software, simply by virtue of being in SVG format, like digital font files can.

relevant discussions:

--Chewzy (talk) 13:17, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Chewzy: @King of Hearts disagreed with you in special:diff/829107545.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That argument doesn’t make any sense because it doesn’t address the fact that you can not claim copyright for these files.--Chewzy (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Uploaders did. At least 448 times. Perhaps from the UK, where COM:TOO UK is so low.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:41, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Even if we’d have to consider UK law here, we are – at most, for part of the files – talking about whether picking one background colour exceeds TOO or not. Everything else (and likely even background colour) is determined by Gürkan Sengün’s Font Specimen Creator. TOO clearly isn’t zero in the UK.--Chewzy (talk) 03:11, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But, dude - I don't feel like dealing with your behaviour in this matter any more.--Chewzy (talk) 13:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Chewzy: speaking as an admin here, you really can't bar a user in good standing from a discussion just because you "don't feel like dealing" with his "behavior," which appears to have consisted of reverting something that you did unilaterally with no consensus to back you. If there is somewhere his "behavior" that was actually problematic, I missed it, but you can bring it to COM:AN/U (with specific diffs to back up your claim of inappropriate behavior). - Jmabel ! talk 20:18, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don’t respond well to people who threaten to call the cops, first thing, instead of listening to arguments and trying to have a productive discussion. Going on to ridicule me doesn’t help. Consider that my personal thing. I never said anything about me, in turn, wanting to “report” him. – I didn’t like his behaviour, I don’t see a productive attitude towards me. I decide who I talk to. It's my request for help here. I didn’t find him helpful; that’s part of why I’m here.
My edits didn’t strike me as actually controversial. Could I kindly ask you to try to answer my actual question here instead of just voicing your (however qualified) solidarity for Jeff G.?
It still seems pretty clear to me that those copyright claims are wrong and should be removed. So, please: How to proceed? How/where to seek consensus on this surprisingly controversial issue? Who can settle the legal questions?--Chewzy (talk) 02:26, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Usually, where there is even some possibility that a user's work might be copyrighted and they've offered an appropriate license, we don't delete that license in suggesting that another might be more appropriate. For example, at File:Joanna Sans Nova sample image.svg, you might add something in the permissions section like, "Although the authors of this file claim copyright and offer a {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}}, it is fairly likely that this image is not eligible for copyright in most countries and can be used on a public-domain basis."
If that's not an acceptable answer to you, you can take it up at the Village pump. Please, if you do so, include a permalink to this discussion so that it is clear what has already been said. - Jmabel ! talk 06:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I very much appreciate the very constructive answer. Chewzy (talk) 14:35, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I am the person who originally raised concerns about the user unilaterally changing the licences of font samples, even though the licences were already suitable for the Wikimedia Commons: under the circumstances, Chewzy's unilateral actions felt like a form of licence laundering. It appears that font samples and simple text like "The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog" are two entirely different things: style vs. functionality respectively, as it appears to me. --Minoa (talk) 00:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I appreciate the raising of valid concerns and indeed had little awareness of Commons considering other than US legal frameworks. So far I didn’t feel like my point has been seen and addressed. To me those license tags (i.e. copyright claims) (still) seem something like reverse license laundering, if that makes sense. Neither in the text content (what you compared to “functionality”) nor in the layout, arrangement, coloring, embellishments, ... (what you compared to “style”) I can see any basis for copyright protection, even considering the given examples of UK legal cases. So I still think we should remove those copyright tags. Now, where would you have discussed something like this in order not to act “unilateral”? Chewzy (talk) 14:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Some, like this one are a bit concerning. It's missing basic information. The file info seems to indicate that this is something created originally by the Flickr user. If it is, then good job, but it seems a bit older on its face. The complexity, plus the typesetting, plus the flourish...I would say puts this is testy waters as far as claiming TOO. GMGtalk 00:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Yes, sure. I would not and have not touched that one. Chewzy (talk) 14:16, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is a photograph free content - specific question[edit]

Hello, I have a photograph for a living person who is the subject of the Wiki article I would like to highlight the photo in. The photo is of this person holding their daytime Emmy award. This person gave me permission in an email to use the photo, and noted that it was taken by a friend at the award ceremony in 2006 and given to her, i.e. it is not a press photo but a friend's "snapshot." If the friend who took the picture can't be located to provide permission, can it be considered free content? Karamel patti (talk) 21:32, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Karamel patti: This is certainly not sufficiently free for Commons.
  1. The "friend" would own the copyright, not the person who is the subject of the photo. Also, if the Emmy statue is highly visible, that would itself produce an insurmountable copyright problem, because the statue is copyrighted, and the owners of that copyright will certainly not release rights.
  2. If the friend cannot be located, you are simply out of luck.
  3. If the friend can be located, then there are two issues that need to be resolved: (1) we need a specific free license, not just "OK, you can use this." (2) We'd pretty much need this to go through the process described at COM:VRT, where the friend (or their heir) would have to send the relevant email.
It sounds to me like you would do better to use a different photo for the article: either take one yourself, have the person take a selfie and go through COM:VRT to offer a specific license, or have them track down something where it is actually possible to get permission from the copyright-holder. - Jmabel ! talk 22:17, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Additionally, I just found out that the friend who took the photo is deceased. Thanks for the info. and advice. 2601:204:4003:D440:6038:1B80:5262:765D 03:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Karamel patti: Please stay logged in. I am sorry for her loss. Did the friend leave any heirs? They, too, can send permission via VRT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:22, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is there a place/page where I can post a request for an image?[edit]

I am wanting a usable photograph of the Johnston Memorial, which is located in the south-west corner of [[Category:St Marys Church, Gilston]], Hertfordshire, England. Is there somewhere on Commons or on Wikipedia itself where I can make a request for an image? The Hertfordshire Project is inactive, and the England Project would seem a bit wide. Any advice appreciated. KJP1 (talk) 09:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Category:Requested files. —Justin (koavf)TCM 10:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Many thanks. Request posted. KJP1 (talk) 10:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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new article about a person[edit]

I wrote an article of a notable Winnebago Tribal member, and would like some help in making sure it's appropriate in every way for Wikipedia. Are there folks who do this? - Raptorrunner Raptorrunner (talk) 15:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Not really. Wikipedia is a sister project to this one. And while everyone who has a Commons account also has a Wikipedia account, that doesn't mean that all of us edit both projects or that there is any way to get feedback from one project on a different one. Which language did you write the article in? —Justin (koavf)TCM 15:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Raptorrunner, if the article is in English then you could read en:Help:Your first article. You can ask questions about en Wikipedia at en:Wikipedia:Help desk or en:Wikipedia:Teahouse. TSventon (talk) 16:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or see the language links next to any of those pages.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Krassimira Stoyanova's article and photograph[edit]

Krassimira Stoyanova is a Bulgarian Soprano: there's a page about her in 7 languages in Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krassimira_Stoyanova). She is the daughter of bulgarian composer Wesselin Stoyanow (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veselin_Stoyanov) but this is not published, although clearly stated in his Wikipedia page in Bulgarian (https://bg.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BD_%D0%A1%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%8F%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2). Moreover, there's no photograph of her, although several appear in her own website (https://www.krassimira-stoyanova.com) and others (e. g. https://www.schmopera.com/scene/people/krassimira-stoyanova/). One of these could be published, for the source is under her total control and in public view. Can you help? Thanks! Vittorio Ameglio. Vittorio Ameglio (talk) 22:31, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Vittorio Ameglio: Hi and welcome. You should not upload such photos without permission; instead, please ask her to have the photographer of each send the photos (or links to them online) with permission via VRT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:34, 11 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unsuitable file extension[edit]

Hello. I wanted to overwrite Sierpinski_carpet_4.svg file with a 1-bit PNG because it only containts a few B&W squares that can be losslessly represented with raster, and it will be smaller (~250bytes instaed of ~2kb). But, system said "the MIME type does not match the file extension". In fact, file extensions does not need to fit the file type. For example, my music player can open MP3 files with WAV extension. But, commons seems to does not know that. I want to owervrite existing file rather than uploading a new file because the SVG version does not contains any benefits over the PNG. In PNG, the file size is much smaller, while the quality is the same. Please help me for uploading a PNG with a SVG extension, and i will be happy if these square-based fractals will be not uploaded in SVG anymore. RuzDD (talk) 00:02, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RuzDD: Hi, and welcome. No one pixel PNG file would fit the bill. Also, please wikify your posts so people can easily look at things like File:Sierpinski carpet 4.svg, which is 2 KB. We do have File:Menger 4.PNG, which is 3 KB, but any png image will look fuzzy when scaled down (due to design decisions discussed in phab:T192744) or jaggy when scaled up, so you may want to upload a jpg version, too. Also, please understand that our systems require files to have the correct types.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
1: They would fit the bill if the resolution is correct. 2: PNG may look bad when scaled down, but SVG also will be look bad when scaled down. 3: I tried to scale up my PNG and it does not look like jaggy. Just it maybe look a bit better if it's not interpolated. 3: I am tried to wikify, but it showed the full image instead the link when i wrote [[File:Sierpinski_carpet_4.svg]]. 4: It has two (probable) reasons to be 3kb: A: it's bit depth is higher than 1-bit. B: it's resolution is very high: 245x245px while 81x81px can be perfect. 5: I think JPG will be mess up the image because JPEG is not designed to contain basic BW square-based fractals, but 1-bit PNG is way more efficient (and lossless if the correct resolution is used). 6: I understood now, so i am going to update the existing PNG. But, can we make a redirect from the SVG file with deleting that file, like in Wikipedia articles (different names of articles showing the same content)? RuzDD (talk) 00:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Note: Now i noticed i not have permissions to overwrite, so i uploaded Menger4-efficient.png. RuzDD (talk) 00:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@RuzDD: Using the colon trick, I can wikify that to File:Menger4-efficient.png.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:45, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Saperaud~commonswiki and @Meidosensei: What do you think?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:44, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  1. 1-bit != 1-pixel (resolution vs bit-depth (color number))
  2. you can create meaningful PNGs with 256 byte or less file size and even smaller webp and gif files with the same content
  3. It does not make sense to replace a file of only 2KB with a smaller file WRT MediaWiki
  4. SVG is better for these kind of content than any bitmap format (even if this is not the case for MediaWiki at this moment)
C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 08:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
1: If bit depth = 1bpc, 1bit~=1px in uncompressed formats. In compressed formats, 1bit > 1px. 2: I not prefer WEBP because i think it is not different from a mess. PNG or GIF is nice enough for these images. 3: I want to reduce sşze as i can due to my principles. If a smaller file provides the same quality with the bigger one, i must upload the smaller file anyway, even for a few bytes (this is in most status, sometimes exceptions being real, for example when decoding another file is faster and speed is important, but this is not from these exceptioner files). 4: SVG is the same for look, and worse than PNG at performance. SVG will want more process for rendering than PNG in ~99.9% of cases. Anyway, i will be happy if you can make a redirect from File:Sierpinski_carpet_4.svg and File:Menger 4.PNG, thanks. RuzDD (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@RuzDD: I put the colons on the left and fixed the extension for you. Syntax is important here. If you want to delete those files to make way for redirects (or in the case of the PNG, to make way for your version), please see COM:DP.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:11, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I know syntax is important (i can write code on some langs), but i not know very well that wiki codes. I don't understand why mw uses the wiki lang, i think HTML and CSS are much better and easy. And, you fixed the extension: which extension? RuzDD (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@RuzDD: With regard to the Menger 4 file, in this edit, you wrote "[[File:Menger 4.png:]]". I moved the colon to the left side and changed the "png" extension to "PNG" to form "[[:File:Menger 4.PNG]]" in my reply. See also en:H:PIC#Linking without displaying and en:H:WT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:57, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, i understand that it is the file extension. RuzDD (talk) 01:07, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Useless efficiency[edit]

@RuzDD: if you write code, then I would imagine you are familiar with the notion that you can only meaningfully gain efficiency where there is significant inefficiency. For example, it is rarely worth optimizing a portion of the code where a program spends 2-3% of its time. Similarly here: a 2KB file is, in the scheme of things nowadays, nothing. It is literally smaller than the text of this discussion. Even if you could somehow take it down to nothing, unless someone is (for some odd reason) downloading it thousands of times, you don't gain enough to be worth any trouble.

Now, if you can drop a 32MB file to 600KB without data loss visible to the human eye, that can be very worth doing.

There's nothing inherently wrong with something being made unnecessarily efficient, but if significant human time is wasted on making it so, then it is generally a wasteful thing to pursue. - Jmabel ! talk 19:25, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think that's not useless because not only high-performance computers and fast Internet connections using Wikimedia projects. Owners of very much lower capabilited computers may want to use WM projects. For example, ATmega328P has only 32KB of program ROM, 2KB of SRAM and 1KB of EEPROM. (ATmega328P is used on Arduino Uno and Nano, and Uno is the most used model of Arduino.) At this level of memory, a few bytes can change things. This also happens on performance. For example, on an Arduino, processing that SVG will be take much more time than PNG because Arduino have to think colors and shapes too much on SVG, but not on PNG because 1: Shapes used on PNGs are cannot change (they are always square, i mean pixels) 2: From the beginning of the file, ATmega knows that: this image contains only 2 colors! (I don't calculated the efficiency ratio, i hope this does not create problems. Also excuse me if i wrote things wrong because my main lang is Turkish and i don't know English very well.) RuzDD (talk) 23:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@RuzDD: You understand that uses of SVG files on WMF project are via PNG thumbnails, right?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, but this does not remove the problem. All PNG files are not equalivant. There are major differences between File:Menger 4.PNG and File:Menger4-efficient.png. One is 245x245px while the other is 81x81px. And, one is 1bpc while the other is at a higher bpc (i not checked but it should be higher, otherwise the file size must be lower). Also, wrong conversions can make a blurry (or unbalanced if we do not interpolate it) image. A human can solve these problems, but the MW engine does not know that. Because of this, the output of that engine is probably going to be much bigger (file size) and maybe blurry or wrong. RuzDD (talk) 13:44, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Es handelt sich um ein historisches, automatisch koloriertes Foto von Ende 1940. Hochlader= Prof. Hidenori Watanave (https://researchmap.jp/hwtnv), Universität Tokio (https://labo.wtnv.jp/). Das Originalfoto ist demnach eine s/w-Aufnahme, die auf Grund des Datums und der Plausibilität (3 Flaggen des de:Dreimächtepakts) gemeinfrei ist: Dieses fotografische Werk wurde im Zuständigkeitsbereich der Regierung von Japan entweder vor dem 31. Dezember 1956 veröffentlicht oder vor 1946 aufgenommen und danach 10 Jahre nicht veröffentlicht. Daher gilt dieses fotografische Werk gemäß Artikel 23 des alten japanischen Urheberrechtsgesetzes in Verbindung mit Artikel 2 der Ergänzungsbestimmungen zum japanischen Urheberrechtsgesetz als gemeinfrei.

--Peter Christian Riemann (talk) 10:26, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is a historical, automatically colored photo from the end of 1940. Uploader = Prof. Hidenori Watanave (https://researchmap.jp/hwtnv), University of Tokyo (https://labo.wtnv.jp/). The original photo is therefore a b/w photo, which is in the public domain due to the date and plausibility (3 flags of the en:Tripartite Pact): This photographic work was taken within the jurisdiction of the Government of Japan either before Released December 31, 1956 or recorded before 1946 and not released for 10 years thereafter. Therefore, this photographic work is considered to be in the public domain in accordance with Article 23 of the Old Japanese Copyright Law read in conjunction with Article 2 of the Supplementary Provisions to the Japanese Copyright Law.
translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Peter Christian Riemann: Hallo und herzlich willkommen. Wann und wo wurde es erstmals veröffentlicht und woher wissen Sie das?
Hi, and welcome. When and where was it first published, and how do you know that?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi User:Jeff G., all information comes with the link https://globalvoices.org/2022/04/30/japan-officially-rebukes-ukraine-for-comparing-wartime-emperor-with-hitler-mussolini/. The s/w photo otiginal itself dates back to the Tripartite Pact (see description underneath). See also: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D0%9F%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%82_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D1%83%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%B5_%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%8B.jpg and was recolourized by Professor Hidenori Watanave from Tokio University (https://twitter.com/hwtnv) Like with all other official pictures of that time, there is no restriction by the Japanese Governement. The photo therefore should be within the public domain. Meanwhile I mailed to H. Watanave (Cc VRT Permission Team) in order to verify the picture. Thanks for taking care, Peter Christian Riemann (talk) 16:50, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The colorization is a problem, because it may be completely speculative (it says "Automatic Image Colorization") and the black and white original is always superior to the colorized version, and the colorization by Hidenori Watanave (which could be copyrighted) is not freely licensed. I strongly suggest that if the original black and white photo could be found, to use that. Abzeronow (talk) 16:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello User:Abzeronow, please see my answer to User:Jeff G.... Peter Christian Riemann (talk) 16:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I agree with the original photo would be {{PD-Japan-oldphoto}} as a 1940 created photograph. The colorization has faults in my opinion, the green in the big Italian flag appears to be too dark. Abzeronow (talk) 16:59, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would agree that the original black-and-white photograph would be fine, but we would need a license for the colorization. Also that the original black-and-white photograph would be clearly within scope, while the colorization is dubious in that respect. - Jmabel ! talk 19:30, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Though I suppose that if the colorization was done by AI without significant human guidance it is {{PD-algorithm}}. Still doesn't address the question of why a colorization of this would be in scope, though. - Jmabel ! talk 19:32, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Add historical portrait from Youtube video?[edit]

I'd like to add a portrait picture of Helen Hall Jennings, a social network researcher who died in 1966, to her Wikipedia profile. The source of the picture is this Youtube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4x47339MYw&t=1606s What would I need to do to get this done? Jennings did not have any children, do I need to contact the content creator of the Youtube video? Best regards Hans Nimmermehr (talk) 11:39, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Hans Nimmermehr: Hi, and welcome. Please have the photographer post permission on their official website or social media or send the photo and permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. If you can't get a compliant license, the photo may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F because we don't allow Fair Use here. FTR, we couldn't accept that photo as-is because the video does not have a free enough license.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 13:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks a lot for the welcome and for the practical advice, I will pursue this in the next weeks. As @Jmabel writes, the photographer most probably never got the chance to open any social media profile during his lifetime. The video probably violates copyright already. 129.125.153.49 08:14, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That text was mine, btw, just in non-loggedin mode. Hans Nimmermehr (talk) 08:17, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You need to find the source of this photo, its copyright status and its author or copyright owner. The end of the video provides a list of books from which photos were copied. But it does not specify from which one of those books this photo was copied. -- Asclepias (talk) 15:53, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for pointing me to this, it looks like that could cost a bit more time than expected (getting those books, etc.) Hans Nimmermehr (talk) 08:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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Can I upload an album cover that nobody has uploaded yet?[edit]

vultures DanceTillYourDead (talk) 14:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If it has an appropriate license and could plausibly be used for educational purposes, then sure. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Which most often means "no." - Jmabel ! talk 19:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See also COM:NETC.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 00:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file. (for pdf)[edit]

Hi all

I'm working with the UN Food and Agriculture Organization to help them upload their publications and graphics to Commons (lots of great graphics etc). I've uploaded quite a lot of content before and I have a new error I've never seen before, please can someone help? It would be useful to know if there is an issue with the file or with the upload wizard.

When I try to upload this publication to Commons for them to then send the VRT request I get this error

Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file

Please can someone tell me what it might be? Please feel free to try to upload the file yourself and just add {{Cc-by-sa-3.0-igo}} {{subst:OP}} as the license so they can then send the permission. If it is an issue with the pdf (which opens fine on my computer and isn't too big) could someone tell me the fix?

I found a few Phab tickets with this error message but don't really understand them, also I uploaded a similar size pdf just before so I don't think its a connection issue.

Small update: I've just tried uploading a slightly compressed version using the Adobe compressor and a 'repaired' file using an online pdf repair tool, but neither fixed the issue.

Thanks very much

John Cummings (talk) 06:00, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I have had this happen before and Commons:Chunked uploads has worked for me many of these times. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:53, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Koavf thanks very much, the file is 27mb, so I don't think its the file size, it only takes maybe 30 seconds to upload on my pretty ok wifi connection. I'm unclear how to use chunkeduploads, from what I read on that page it appears to be automatically applied? There aren't any installation instructions. Would you mind trying to upload the file? Just so I know if its an issue I'm causing or if its either the file or Commons? It failed for me on the upload page John Cummings (talk) 07:14, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unfortunately, this file cannot be uploaded here due to its license. If you'd like, I can upload it to https://nccommons.org/, a similar project that has no formal relationship with this site. —Justin (koavf)TCM 07:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Koavf the licensing will be sorted out with a VRT ticket after its uploaded(I have the email for FAO to send ready to go), the VRT system allows you to upload the content before applying the VRT ticket (I think it gives you 7 days to upload the permission before the file is deleted). Please can you just try uploading it and let me know if it gets as far uploading the file successfully? Also can you think of anywhere else I can ask for technical help with this? I feel like I have a pretty rare issue. Thanks, John Cummings (talk) 07:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Koavf: I know John, and although he doesn't mention it here, he was the longstanding Wikimedian in residence at UNESCO, and I'm sure that if he says FAO will grant a permission via VRT he knows what he's talking about. So this is presumably a strictly technical problem in doing the actual upload. - 08:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Jmabel thanks so much :) Yeah I'm assuming its a technical issue, although I have no idea what... Can you suggest anywhere I could ask for help? If you could try uploading the file and see if you get the same error I'd really appreciate it :) John Cummings (talk) 08:16, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
John Cummings file is now at File:World Food and Agriculture - Statistical Yearbook 2023.pdf with a blank template. You will need to fill out all fields and address the licensing issue. I suggest you address this ASAP, because as it stands now it would be subject to speedy deletion. - Jmabel ! talk 08:32, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@John Cummings As a workaround you can use Rillke's BigChunkedUpload. While you can upload files up to 100 MB without chunked upload, it is a workaround in cases, where normal upload does not work. see Help:Chunked upload The script allows you to set the chunk size. If upload does not work with the default setting try smaller or larger chunk sizes. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jmabel thanks so much :) Can you briefly explain how you managed to upload this incase someone also has this issue (or I get it again). Thanks again, John Cummings (talk) 08:51, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@John Cummings with Special:Upload, it went without a hitch. I find it much more reliable than the Wizard (which I generally avoid: I know exactly what I want on the file page). - Jmabel ! talk 19:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The tasks https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T353498 and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T353068 show the issue. I assume they are linked together --PantheraLeo1359531 😺 (talk) 17:50, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Help with Wikimedia VRTS release generator step 3[edit]

https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/punjabi/music/shanaya-sharma-punjabi-as-a-language-gives-me-a-sense-of-inner-peace/photostory/88077294.cms —Preceding unsigned comment was added by 103.212.158.11 (talk) 07:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

There is no explicit question here. What exactly do you want to know? (And are you the copyright-holder of the photo in question, because that is the only person who can release rights to it.) - Jmabel ! talk 08:10, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright Photo Taken Down[edit]

To whom it may concern,

Hello, For the page which I created, The Kryptonite Sparks, I uploaded a photo to which I have the permission to use from the copyrights holder, and it keeps getting taken down. Is there anything I am missing?

Thank you Kelly Picketrish (talk) 12:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"2023-12-08T17:02:58 EugeneZelenko (B/A) deleted page File:The Kryptonite Sparks - PRESS LIVE 01 (credit @naluca).jpg (Copyright violation; see Commons:Licensing (F1): Promo/press photo)" Obviously the "copyrights holder" did not send a permission to VRT. You could ask Kelly Picketrish for the reason of that omission. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
C.Suthorn: please remember that this is the help desk.
@Kelly Picketrish: the problem is that for images like File:The Kryptonite Sparks live at Electric Castle 2018.png and the others that were deleted, we have no automatic way to know that you represent who you say you represent. Anyone could create an account and claim to own the rights to anything. Here's what we need at this point: the copyright-holder of the work(s) in question needs to go through the process outlined at COM:VRT to grant a specific license. If you are the copyright-holder, that's pretty straightforward (although if you are not the photographer, the VRT would need to see copies of the document(s) that transferred copyright to you). If the copyright is held by an organization, then it's by far best that the correspondence come from an email on that organization's domain. If a third party holds copyright, the permission must come from that third party.
Note that you can word correspondence with the VRT to set up a more open-ended permission. E.g. if you represent an organization, they can handle confidential correspondence to establish that, so that you can be trusted in the future when uploading content on behalf of that organization. Similarly, if some photographer other than you wants to designate this account as having authority to upload their copyrighted materials, they can do so.
Also in the future: often the easiest way to handle this is to specify a free license the first time the image is uploaded to the Internet. For example, if the initial upload is to a band's web page, upload it there with a clear photo credit and an explicit indication of a license like CC-BY-SA 4.0. Then, anyone can upload it to Commons by citing that page as a source. (Similarly if the initial upload is to the photographer's own site, or to Flickr, or even to social media.)
By the way, as far as I can tell, for each image you uploaded, you got a warning about the permission problem at least a week before it was deleted, and you ignored the warnings. Predictably, they were deleted. - Jmabel ! talk 19:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Criteria for deleting a file by a "blacklisted user"[edit]

I was looking for images to add to en:InterContinental_Shanghai_Wonderland and found several from this flickr account. I uploaded one image under CC-BY-2.0 but when trying to source it better got a message that the user was blacklisted? I can't find a specific deletion criteria that applies to this, what should I do? Thanks.

(Also, there are some other photos on this Daily Mail article - I assume all of these are no good as well because of the copyright?) Reconrabbit (talk) 16:52, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can find why a Flickr account is "blacklisted" at COM:QFI (EDIT: their entry says "Seems to upload concept art under CC-BY-2.0 without actually having permission") Abzeronow (talk) 16:54, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The specific image in question is a photograph, though there are several drawings and renderings of the same location of questionable copyright. I don't have the expertise to say if this photo is okay to keep. I can't get a static link to the file either because the search tools give me this error. Reconrabbit (talk) 17:01, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Already uploaded?[edit]

How do i figure out if I have already uploaded certain files or not? Juandev (talk) 17:05, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Juandev: Hi, and welcome. You may review Special:ListFiles/Juandev and https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/upload&user=Juandev. Anyone may review Special:MyUploads and click "upload log". You may also browse to what you would have named those files using the address bar or search for them.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 17:11, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
All 60k? That would be difficulut. How does the tool, which recognizes duplicates work? Can I use it? Juandev (talk) 17:19, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Juandev: Both Special:Upload and Special:UploadWizard should warn if a file you try to upload is an exact duplicate, and link to the file already uploaded.
Google Lens does a good job of finding if any given image is already online and if so where, so it can search Commons for images quite well. Unlike our own software, it will find even a scaled-down duplicate, or something with different EXIF data.
If your images are decently categorized, it shouldn't be too hard to find any given image. (A good motivation to categorize.) Assuming they are correctly attributed to yourself and you explicitly put the date in the wikitext (I'm presuming you know the date of your file, since most cameras and most file systems record that), that is also easily searched.
I hope that helps. - Jmabel ! talk 19:58, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploads[edit]

Meus uploads foram marcados para exclusão, como posso adicionar licenças a eles? Silvana de Souza (talk) 17:45, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Silvana de Souza: Sorry to be answering in English, I read Portuguese but do not write it.
You can always add a license to an image by editing the wikitext of the file page, and adding an appropriate template. For example, you can add "{{self|cc-by-sa-4.0}}" near the bottom of the page (typically above the categories) to license your own work as {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}}. - Jmabel ! talk 20:02, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
However, looking at the warnings on your talk page, it doesn't look like the problem has been a lack of license. It's been that you are uploading other people's work and simply asserting that you have their permission. Only the copyright-holder can provide permission. They will need to send email, as described at COM:VRT. Sadly, the Portuguese translation of that page is quite incomplete. Please at least look at COM:VRT, and if you can't understand what is needed, then let us know here and we can try to find someone to help you in Portuguese. - Jmabel ! talk 20:06, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Könntet Ihr bitte schauen, ob die Datei ok ist und unter welche Lizenz sie fällt. Das Buch ist von 1867 und sicher ok. Die Scans auf https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org sind meines Wissens nach frei aber ich bin mir nicht sicher. Danke.

--LePoncle (talk) 19:36, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done. - Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I would like to use the image of Vincent Novello (circa 1830's) & want to make sure that there are no problems, as I see that there are some legal issues with the image. Please advise, thanks. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Vincent_Novello_by_Edward_Petre_Novello.jpg Mozartsmuse (talk) 20:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Mozartsmuse: Hi, and welcome. Please don't use it anywhere within reach of Scotland Yard. See User:Dcoetzee/NPG legal threat and en:National Portrait Gallery and Wikimedia Foundation copyright dispute for details.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 21:18, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi Jeff, thanks so much for your reply. I'm an author & this business with image purchases, etc. is driving me crazy. I'm so thankful for Wikipedia & Wikipedia Commons. Thanks! Mozartsmuse (talk) 21:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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What is the rule on adding football badges to Wikimedia Commons and in turn Wikipedia?[edit]

According to Wikimedia, you aren't allowed to add logos that aren't yours to Wikipedia, but every team has a badge on Wikipedia. I have a PNG of the new Ulsan HD FC logo and I would like to add it to Wikipedia. Marshy djh (talk) 00:00, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Marshy djh: Please don't confuse Commons with the English-language Wikipedia. Unlike Commons, the English-language Wikipedia makes quite a few allowances for non-free use: see en:Wikipedia:Non-free content.
If the logos are simple enough (e.g. just text and very simple geometry) they may be too simple to be copyrighted. If they are very old (dating back to the dawn of association football) they may have fallen out of copyright. Other than that, or the unlikely case where a copyright-holder might free-license such a thing, they don't belong on Commons. The rest is an internal en-wiki matter. See en:File:Chelsea FC.svg for a good example; note that does not involve Commons at all. - Jmabel ! talk 00:10, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fair use photo for a player like Julie Halard-Decugis[edit]

We have a tennis article at Wikipedia on Julie Halard-Decugis. There are no photos on her page because we can find no public domain images of her. She won the US Open tennis title in doubles in 2000 plus several other titles in her career in the 1990s but she is long since retired. When I look at a website like [3] I see photos of Julie Halard-Decugis and I know they are copyrighted, even though they don't say so. Must we have an article on wikipedia with no photo at all, or is there some way we can use one of these photos as fair use, say in either the infobox or perhaps in prose where we have a sentence describing her win? I'm not sure exactly how fair use works in this case as I usually have just uploaded my own personal photos here. We have many older tennis players with this situation and I need to be advised on how the fair-use works for Wikiproject Tennis. Thanks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 00:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • This is an issue for Wikipedia. No "fair use" of 3rd party copyrighted material here on Commons. English language Wikipedia allows it in some circumstances, see en:Wikipedia:Non-free content - note that if so it would need to be uploaded locally to en:Wikipedia, not here. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 00:54, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • However, I believe there is almost no chance en-wiki will accept a "fair use" image of a living person. They'll say, "Get hold of them. Take their picture." - Jmabel ! talk 02:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Yup. Or possibly "Send her to a North Korean prison." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • @Gråbergs Gråa Sång: 'Or possibly "Send her to a North Korean prison."' If this is relevant, the relevance escapes me. Are you suggesting that we would somehow be putting her safety at risk by trying to arrange to take a photo of her? - Jmabel ! talk 21:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
      @Jmabel Sorry, it was an attempt at humor, based on that I've seen en-WP on occasion accept pictures of living people as fair use with the motivation that they are imprisoned for the foreseeable future, like Lucy Letby. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:07, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • I'm told some editors have had some success contacting article subjects and asking if they are willing to "donate" a picture. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:47, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The use of non-free images on en.Wikipedia is deliberately restricted to a minimum because it is a free content encyclopaedia. In the case of a living person, non-free use images are rarely permitted as it is usually still possible to obtain a free-use image of the person. Alternatively, as Gråbergs Gråa Sång says, ask the subject to donate a picture or find a photograph and ask the copyright holder if they will donate it. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 14:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

comopuedo subir archivos gratis[edit]

quiero subir archivos gratis para wikipedia como lo ago un abrazo y saludos Bilarmino (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bilarmino: Buenas. Por favor, veas al COM:FS/es.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 10:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template:Month by year in Vitoria-Gasteiz[edit]

Hi there. There seems to be something wrong with {{Month by year in Vitoria-Gasteiz}}. It categorizes Category:December 2023 in Vitoria-Gasteiz into Category:December 2023 in Álava-Araba, but then it is not possible find it there. If only someone could help me solve the issue. Thanks in advance. Alavense (talk) 09:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

That is weird. - Jmabel ! talk 21:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have no technical knowledge, but I would say it has something to do with the fact that its belonging to that category is conditional and subjected to its existence. For instance, when I have created «Category:Month year in Álava-Araba» before «Category:Month year in Vitoria-Gasteiz», there has been no problem. Alavense (talk) 06:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wizard upload not always working[edit]

For a week, I get error messages using the upload wizard: "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." I cannot always the classic upload because some files are over 100 mb Smaxims (talk) 10:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

See Commons:Chunked uploads and you can use tools such as User talk:Rillke/bigChunkedUpload.js. That will almost always fix the issue. —Justin (koavf)TCM 10:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thx, but it won’t work. After uploading chunks and trying to assemble them on the server side, I got the message "00208: FAILED: stashfailed: Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file.".
And anyway, it is not a solution for a multiple upload, just a possible workaround (which want work for me) for a single file upload Smaxims (talk) 11:14, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I get the very same error for about a week. "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." The whole project I'm working on is stuck now. Can anyone please take a look into this issue with uploading wizard? Alexkrakovsky (talk) 17:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
User:John Cummings had a similar report. - Jmabel ! talk 21:39, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jmabel Thanks :) Yes I had the same issue, I started a phabricator bug report here, please Smaxims and Alexkrakovsky can you share there what happened, what file it was including a link if you can (even if you've managed to find a workaround the engineer can test it because it fails before the duplicate file check). John Cummings (talk) 05:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just tried to upload the file and I got the very same error "Internal error: Server failed to store temporary file." No change. Alexkrakovsky (talk) 17:33, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Same here with File:Map of the city and county of New York - with the adjacent country - by David H. Burr. NYPL433800.tiff --Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 05:28, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm also still got this error. So I can't proceed uploading my project. Ilham.nurwansah (talk) 07:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Supprimer cette page utilisateur Commons[edit]

Saurez vous s'il vous plaît supprimer cette page Commons mise en lien ici ? parce que c'est resté depuis un moment inutilisé

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Logan_Van_Huynegem?uselang=fr 2001:AC8:27:1001:EC4E:E3EF:8A67:D946 14:51, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Delete this Commons user page
Can you please delete this Commons page linked here? because it has been unused for a while
translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Logan Van Huynegem: Bonjour et bienvenue. Vous avez déclenché Special:AbuseFilter/235 en proposant la suppression de la page de discussion utilisateur désignée pour communiquer avec vous. S'il vous plaît, ne faites pas ça. Veuillez également vous connecter.
Hi, and welcome. You have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/235 by nominating for deletion the user talk page designated for communication with you. Please don't do that. Please also login.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. I uploaded that file, but i named it wrong. It should be "File:JuliaPart4bpc0000.png". How can i rename it? If i cannot do that, may someone do that? RuzDD (talk) 16:09, 14 December 2023 (UTC) Reply[reply]

Addition: i uploaded two files including this with upload wizard, but it programmed wrong. I writed paint.net is just a helper software, but it considered it as an AI model, and i deleted it. Wizard must be corrected. RuzDD (talk) 16:13, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RuzDD: on your first question, there should be a "move" tab on every file page. Its location depends on the "skin" you are using, but typically it is one of the horizontal tabs above the file name. If you don't have filemover privileges yourself, then it should fill out a "rename" template, which someone else will attend to within a few days.

On you second question/remark, I'm not sure I understand "I writed paint.net is just a helper software, but it considered it as an AI model, and i deleted it." Could you elaborate? What exactly was the question you were answering in the Wizard? - Jmabel ! talk 21:48, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Also: on fractal images, it really would be better if you could upload at a much higher resolution. - Jmabel ! talk 21:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

When saying "I writed paint.net is just a helper software, but it considered it as an AI model, and i deleted it." i mean: I made these using paint.net program, and the wizard asked me like that "are you used some software to make this?", and i select "yes" and wrote "paint.net" to "which program you used" like question. I thinked it will write like "this work made with paint.net program" but it wrote like "this work made with paint.net AI model and it is public domain, maybe you should ask for permission for paint.net, author is paint.net". This is a program, not an AI model. Because of this, i deleted this template. On second answer: I like to consider filesize. And, i upload this for a basic example and also beautifulness. If someone want to see the mandelbrot or julia or some other fractal, they can be find ready images on there, but more preferently: They can use softwares to lively generate ultra-detailed images. I can upload some higher res and full fractals, also. RuzDD (talk) 22:30, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Interesting. That sounds like a problem with the Wizard. I bet it also applies to (for example) Hugin. I'll report that. - Jmabel ! talk 23:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel Ouch! I found another thing. This option writes "Bu çalışmayı bir YZ aracıyla oluşturdum" that can translated to English as "I created this work using an AI tool" and i cannot figure out that "YZ" stands for "Yapay zeka" ("artifactial intelligence" in english), and i think not only i falled this misunderstoodate. I think it must write the full word "artifactial intelligence" (or "yapay zeka" in turkish), also indicate that: this work will be public domain if it created with an artifactial intelligence tool. RuzDD (talk) 23:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Reported at Commons talk:WMF support for Commons/Upload Wizard Improvements#Problem in the question that asks if you used software. - Jmabel ! talk 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel That link is red!? This page is not created!? RuzDD (talk) 00:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Now fixed. - Jmabel ! talk 00:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Licensing[edit]

It is frustrating that the photographer Harald Krichel whose many photos are available on Wikimedia/Wikipedia is using the services of Pixsy to bully and threaten small businesses and bloggers with copyright infringement lawsuits. This is hardly in the spirit of Wikimedia and the CC licenses available. Please reconsider your relationship with this photographer. Thank you. 152.44.211.156 20:06, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pinging @Seewolf (Harald Krichel): do you have something to say in response to this? - Jmabel ! talk 21:53, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Jimi Solanke[edit]

The voice recording of the pronunciation of the name is totally wrong. You need someone who actually knows how to say the name to speak 2600:1700:9A99:F410:BC28:2F1B:D5AA:401F 20:52, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I'm guessing this refers to File:Yo-Jimi Solanke.ogg (implicitly meaning that the uploader considers this to be a Yoruba pronnciation of the name). The uploader states on her user page that she is an Igbo from Adavi LGA in Kogi State, Nigeria and now lives in Delta State, and her Babel box says she is a near-native (though not native) Yoruba speaker. Offhand, I'd think that meant she has a pretty good chance of pronouncing his name correctly, but also some chance of getting it wrong. (It's been 3 months since her last Commons edit, so I don't know whether she will see this).
You are, of course, welcome to create an account and upload a file with what you believe to be the correct pronunciation. If you wanted to do that in Yoruba, you should probably call it File:Yo-Jimi Solanke (2).ogg. If you speak a different language, then a different appropriate language prefix would replace "yo". - Jmabel ! talk 22:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I need to upload a PDF file and it won't let me[edit]

Hello, I have a problem wanting to upload a pdf file, I am new and I need to do this since it is a homework that was asked of me, if it is possible that you would allow me to upload the pdf file I would appreciate it Eliangmz (talk) 03:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Eliangmz: It's very unusual to have homework that would require uploading a PDF to Commons, and we don't normally allow new users to upload PDFs, because when we did allow it, so high a percentage of them were either copyright violations or out of scope. Can you elaborate on what, exactly, is the nature of the PDF you want to upload? (Even in the worst case, you can point your teacher at this dialogue to see why you couldn't do that.) - Jmabel ! talk 03:45, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The pdf that I want to upload is only a series of explained concepts, which was what the activity asked for. And I know that tasks of this type are unusual, it is a computer science class and the first time I see something like this, so I am also very lost, if it is not possible to enable the possibility for the pdf, how long should I wait, because only I have until Monday Eliangmz (talk) 04:12, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Eliangmz: That actually sounds entirely outside of Commons scope. See especially Commons:What Commons is not. Did your teacher specifically say to upload this to Wikimedia Commons? If so, please, let your teacher know he/she is asking you to break the rules of this site. (Not everyone who answers questions on this page is an administrator, but I am, and I'm telling you this as an administrator.) Again, feel very free to aim your teacher at this discussion for an explanation of why that will not be happening: you are trying to load exactly the sort of out-of-scope file that is the reason we made the rule against new users uploading such files. - Jmabel ! talk 04:50, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay, thank you very much for answering and clearing up my doubts, I'll talk to my teacher about it. Eliangmz (talk) 05:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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I think that this question was replied to adequately based on the supplied information. If you have anything to add or a follow-up question please feel free to replace this box with your comment. This section will be archived after two days. --廣九直通車 (talk) 13:32, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please exclude SVG translations via the SVG Translate tool from Special:AbuseFilter/290[edit]

Hello. Mere translations of SVG files via the SVG Translate tool should be exempted from Special:AbuseFilter/290. This tool only lets users translate text labels in existing SVG files, which is a far cry from the major, disruptive overwrites that this abuse filter seeks to prevent. Thank you. Leptictidium (talk) 08:37, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Leptictidium: We have an exception in place for this. Please try leaving the Edit Summary alone.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:43, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, @Jeff G.: , what do you mean exactly? I just click the "Upload to Commons" button from the tool; as far as I know, I'm not touching the edit summary.--Leptictidium (talk) 07:39, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Leptictidium: In your last attempt to upload File:Route Punic army messana.svg, logged here, the tool wrote "Added translation for ca." at the end of the comment/summary/reason for you. @GPSLeo: this should have matched. When I translated the file, I got a similar comment/summary/reason (different language abbreviation), without allowing me any input but the language name. I think "contains" would be a much better condition for this than "rlike" in this diff.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:40, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@GPSLeo: .Leptictidium (talk) 10:05, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image Copyright[edit]

Am i allowed to upload a picture of a old folklore musician? The person who took the photograph is unknown. Adlogog (talk) 14:04, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Depends on how old the image is. When and where was the image taken? Bremps... 15:27, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how to fix archive citation?[edit]

I am practicing an edit for a page and as you can see on my sandbox page, I am trying to make a citation for the archive, and the citation has an error. It appears as if the error is missing dates or something. I also looked on the page I am translating and it only shows one date. How do I fix this? AaronNinetyTwo (talk) 16:31, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@AaronNinetyTwo: Hi, The red error message currently displayed merely reminds you to use the parameters in English, e.g. title, not título. Please see the documentation of the template Cite web for a list of the parameters and their use. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you! I thought it was missing a date or something. AaronNinetyTwo (talk) 18:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

MacekR[edit]

Hi all!

I am preparing a draft for an article, but only seem to have one option for saving it, which in the German version is "Änderungen veröffentlichen" (publish changes). For lack of an alternative I use this in the hope the draft is saved, but now can´t find it again. I followed the starter video, and have checked the handbook. I obviously turned somewhere and can´t find my way out. Please help.

Wie kann ich den bearbeiteten Entwurf speichern OHNE ihn zu veröffentlichen und wie finde ich diesen dann wieder. Das Handbuch hilft mir nicht. Mir steht NUR eine Speicherfunktion zur Verfügung: "Änderungen veröffentlichen". Der VisualEditor ist keine Hilfe.

MacekR MacekR (talk) 16:32, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MacekR: Hello, You are on a different website here. Your contributions to the German-language Wikipedia are at de:Spezial:Beiträge/MacekR. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:11, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

my title[edit]

ɛvery time i try to upload the title a messaɡe appears sayinɡ it is unconstructive and disallowed. ʋlease assist C P MacCarthy (talk) 17:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It would be best if you elaborated on what you want to title your file. Bremps... 20:05, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C P MacCarthy: What are you trying to do exactly? GMGtalk 20:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@C P MacCarthy: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/281 by trying to upload one or more pdf files as a new user, and another filter. Such uploads of pdf files are not allowed at all. The following applies for each file: You indicated it's your own work. Usually when someone uploads a pdf file as a new user, it's a copyright violation taken from the web or out of scope. What is in the file? If you were not the original file designer or photographer, that person or those people may need to license it on their official website or social media, or send the file and permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. If you can't get a compliant license, the file may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:32, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deletion requests.[edit]

Hello everyone, I hope you are well. On October 3, I requested to delete a group of images (Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by User:OptimusPrimeBot). We had an interaction with user Don-vip, where he concluded that the images could be deleted, but this deletion is taking time, I would like to know the estimated time for the deletion of images and if there is a way to speed up the process. Thank you so much! Yiseth Romero (talk) 19:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Yiseth Romero: and so we meet again. The deletion request (DR) hasn't actually been closed. User:Don-vip is an experienced user, and he probably has this right, but so far no administrator has even weighed in on the DR. I'll try to have a look later today. - Jmabel ! talk 21:06, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Trying to upload a photo and it's not being accepted[edit]

Hi - I originally created the page for Charles Daniels (tenor) some years ago. I can't recall the original account I used, so I've made a new one just now. Some time ago, someone took down the photo of Charles that I had initially added to the article; there was no reason given, but I think I understand why, as it depicted him with a beard and he doesn't usually wear one. (I am in complete agreement with his wife that it doesn't suit him.) So I have just been trying to upload another photo of him, sans beard, which I took in 2010, and for some reason it's not being accepted. There are no copyright issues here at all; it's absolutely my photo. I'm wondering if there is some objection to the word "publicity" in the filename; that's there because at the moment I'm arranging a concert in which he's singing, and I am putting that particular shot on the publicity for that concert. Can anyone help, please? Baroque mongoose (talk) 20:48, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Baroque mongoose: A beard would be an unlikely reason to delete a photo. But if you are not interested in having that image restored, it is moot.
  • You don't say what upload tool you are using, or what error message you got, so it is tricky to know what went wrong. Have you tried Special:UploadWizard? If not, see if that works; it often does where cross-wiki uploads do not. Just to be clear though: unless you took the photo yourself, the copyright-holder of the photo (typically the photographer) needs to grant a license to use it. That probably means going through the process at COM:VRT, and only the copyright-holder can do that, not a third party.
  • Also, for the article on en-wiki: I hope you have read en:WP:COI and especially en:WP:Paid-contribution disclosure. It's not an issue on Commons, but on en-wiki you can be permanently banned for writing an article where you have an undisclosed business interest, so make sure you do the appropriate disclosure. If you haven't dealt with that, I strongly suggest you do that before making any further edits on en-wiki. - Jmabel ! talk 21:13, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    Thanks - just to make it clear, I don't have an actual business interest; I don't work as a concert promoter for a living. This is a one-off concert. I used to travel to a lot of concerts, but since 2016 I have been fairly seriously mobility-impaired, so I no longer can; and I live in a New Town where there are no concerts, so I decided to arrange one, as a private citizen, at my own risk. I still have no idea whether I'll so much as break even. Other than that I've never worked professionally with Charles; he's simply a friend of some twenty years' standing. If I need to declare that, I'm happy to do so. Baroque mongoose (talk) 10:47, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Baroque mongoose: The article on en.wikipedia was created by User:Tenor mongoose, as seen in the history of the article. A "File:Charles Daniels Stour 2007.jpg" was uploaded to en.wikipedia by User:Voceditenore in 2007 [4] and was deleted in 2022 for absence of evidence of permission from the photographer Sarah Hild McEvoy. Your recent attempts at uploads with the filenames "File:Small portrait Charles Daniels.jpg" and "File:Small portrait publicity.jpg" are recorded in your "abuse filter log", which tells that they were attempts at cross-wiki uploads, from a website other than Commons. You can probably upload from the Commons website. -- Asclepias (talk) 21:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That was me. However, I am no longer Sarah Hild McEvoy; I am Makepeace McEvoy. I changed my name several years ago. And Wikipedia absolutely has my permission to use either that photo or the new one; I thought I had made that quite clear at the time! Baroque mongoose (talk) 10:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Baroque mongoose: Hi, and welcome. I am sorry to inform you that you have triggered Special:AbuseFilter/153 by trying to cross-wiki upload smaller (<50,000 bytes or <2,000,000 pixels) jpg photos as a new user. The following applies to each photo. You indicated it's your own work. Usually when someone uploads a smaller jpg photo, it's a copyright violation taken from the web. Please upload the full-size original of it per COM:HR, including any metadata, but if you were not the original photographer, that person may need to license it on their official website or social media or send permission via VRT with a carbon copy to you. If you can't get a compliant license, the photo may still be uploaded to English Wikipedia in compliance with en:WP:F because we don't allow Fair Use here. If you use our Upload Wizard instead, you should be able to that filter.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah. OK. Thank you. There is, unfortunately, a problem with uploading the full-size original of that photo, because there was another person in it whose presence would cause confusion; what happened was that I attended that particular concert with a friend, and they wanted their picture taken with Charles, so I obliged. The photo I tried to upload was the result of cropping Charles out of that photo.
I do have several other photographs of Charles, but quite a lot of them are with other people, and also quite a lot of them are not that good. Getting a decent photo of Charles is not easy because he is somewhat nervous around cameras; he thinks he's ugly. So the trick is generally to amuse him, and then hopefully what you get is a nice smile (the photo that was taken down is actually the best I've ever managed of him, beard notwithstanding), but you might end up with him in fits of laughter... and while that sort of photo is very nice for a friend to have, I don't think it's at all suitable for a serious article on Wikipedia.
I'll see what else I can find that isn't cropped, but in the meantime, if someone wants to restore the original photo with the beard, I'm happy for that to happen. Baroque mongoose (talk) 10:58, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Baroque mongoose: You're welcome. If the original is digital, it should have Exif metadata. When cropping for upload here with such a subject, please try to use a tool that preserves that metadata. See also COM:Exif and COM:UDR.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 15:26, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Baroque mongoose: if you don't mind the picture being briefly visible, you can upload the full version, then overwrite it with the crop, and ask at Commons:Administrators' noticeboard for someone to suppress the full version, which will usually happen within hours. That way, we have it on file, and admins can consult it if needed, but except for the few hours of exposure -- and then only if you look at the file history -- it is not public. - Jmabel ! talk 18:04, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Returning a Wikipedia page to its earlier state[edit]

I tried adding a photograph of James Joyce to the Trieste page. The photograph was from the James Joyce page. It didn't work out. I think I checked Publish instead of Preview. This happened today, December 15, 2023. I'd like to return page to last prior version. I apologize for my multiple errors. Thanks for whatever help or advice you can give me.

Quarkny Quarkny (talk) 01:05, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Quarkny: Hi, and welcome. An IP fixed it for you in this edit. Please read en:H:PIC, and understand that you are posting on Wikimedia Commons, but your edits were on English Wikipedia.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:55, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Old version of "Defense Supply Center Richmond.jpg"[edit]

Hello. I was wondering if there were any way to delete the original upload of Defense Supply Center Richmond.jpg while leaving the newer version intact. I ask because

  1. I forgot to censor a license plate in that upload, which I fixed with the newer version, but I'm concerned about anonymity, especially due to the subject matter of the photo. (I know the plate is blurry, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.)
  2. Commons doesn't seem to be displaying the newer version (nor does Wikidata, although Wikipedia seems to have updated just fine). This is a lower-tier concern, but I wanted to make note of it nonetheless.

Thank you,
Packer1028 (talk) 06:30, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Convenience link: File:Defense Supply Center Richmond.jpg
#2 is certainly just caching.
#1 done, as a courtesy to you as uploader. FWIW, we don't normally blur license plates in the U.S.: there is no expectation of privacy for an automobile in a public space in the U.S. - Jmabel ! talk 07:25, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you so much!
Is it prohibited to censor photos, discouraged, or just not required? If there's a policy against censoring them, I will of course follow it, but it's no big inconvenience for me and I prefer to censor plates as long as that doesn't go against policy or ruin a photograph. Packer1028 (talk) 19:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's just not required. Abzeronow (talk) 19:56, 16 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Aceptar fotos de Flickr[edit]

Buenas, en Wikimedia Commons se aceptan fotos de Flickr que contiene licencias libres?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 10:19, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Sí, siempre que esas licencias libres hayan sido usadas por el propietario de los derechos de autor y no por un tercero (ver COM:Flickrwashing). Strakhov (talk) 10:46, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Strakhov:por ejemplo (File:Logo SAAR Bolívar.jpg) que pasa si el Flickreview 2 está valido (OK),es posible que el administrador de Wikimedia no será removido de esta imagen??
AbchyZa22 (talk) 14:06, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AbchyZa22: Puedes usar COM:Café.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 11:05, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
AbchyZa22: pasa lo que te he dicho, que tú no puedes usar Flickr para blanquear derechos de autor. Flickr no sirve para eso: encontrar por ahí una imagen con derechos de autor de terceros (en internet, en la calle,... donde sea), subirla allí con una licencia libre, y mágicamente convertirla en una imagen libre. Las licencias de Flickr sólo valen cuando son legítimas, esto es, cuando el propietario de la cuenta de Flickr es quien posee los derechos de autor de las "obras" que aparecen en la imagen. Por lo demás, quizás ese logo pueda estar bajo el umbral de la originalidad, quizás pueda no estarlo. Saludos. Strakhov (talk) 14:18, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Extremely confused[edit]

How did I get here Mikeymad3 (talk) 12:55, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Mikeymad3: Hi, and welcome to Wikimedia Commons. We provide over 100 million files for use in Wikivoyage, other WMF projects like Wikipedia, and other outside projects and reusers. It seems that you were browsing Wikivoyage, clicked on an image or other file you liked, and then clicked on either the "Wikimedia Commons" link or the "description page there" link.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:20, 17 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are those available for commercial use?[edit]

Are the following three images in the public domain?

If those are in the public domain, I would like to use it. The book will be published in Japan.



https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Queen_Elizabeth_II_and_Prince_Philip_sit_on_thrones_before_a_full_Parliament.jpg

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Queen_Elizabeth_II_and_President_Ford_1976.jpg

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Queen_Elizabeth_II_official_portrait_for_1959_tour_(retouched)_(cropped)_(3-to-4_aspect_ratio).jpg Qualiart (talk) 02:24, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Qualiart: Hi, and welcome. Yes, they are. Please use internal links.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 02:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Groupphoto of celebration of prof. dr. H.A. Lorentz jubileum taken at the library of Hollandsche Maatschappij der Wetenschappen[edit]

It said that the picture was taken on November 12 1925. This is not correct, the picture was taken on December 11 1925. Probably a misreading in the digit-notation 11-12-1925 in Europe stands for December 11, in U.S. for November 12. Could you please correct this. Kind regards, Dick Pol poldj@hotmail.com P{.S. I iried to correct the date myself, but I was not allowed to do that. 2001:1C00:240F:6500:5062:228E:6436:985E 10:41, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Could you please give a link to that image? Wouter (talk) 10:49, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Probably File:De huldiging van Professor Lorentz bij de Hollandse Maatschappij der Wetenschappen in 1925.jpg. Notifying the uploader. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Just for confirmation, not just our reasonable analysis of the ambiguous "11-12-1925" date, the cited source is a scan of a newspaper with dateline "12 December 1925". Whether that means we should list it as the 12th (publication) or 11th (reasonably presumed when it was taken?) I'll leave to others to hash out. DMacks (talk) 06:18, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Löschdiskussion[edit]

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

Ich möchte wissen was man unter QS Standards versteht und ob ein Artikel auch von anderen verbessert wird wenn er die nötige Relevanz aufzeigt!

Mit freundlichen Grüssen,

Maximilian Nicola Wenning MaxWenning123 (talk) 11:01, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Création d'une page Wikipédia[edit]

Bonjour,

J'aimerais créer une page Wikipédia pour Mme.Valeria Sanchez et M.Didier Beautemps qui sont de célèbres architectes à Paris, ils ont entre autres réaliser des travaux dans les plus beaux lieus du patrimoine historique de la capital comme : Rénovation du RITZ, Rénovation du FOUR SEASON , rénovation de mairie, de château ou de siège social comme la société général qui est placer sous protection du patrimoine historique, de ce fait j'aimerais avoir la possibilité de leurs crée une page wikipédia afin d'avoir des liens hypertexte qui renverrons directement sur leurs page afin d’accroitre leurs visibilité et d’assoir leurs réputation déjà très bien établie dans leurs domaine de prédilection. RyanSem (talk) 12:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RyanSem: fr:Aide:Comment créer un article.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 14:02, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Forged letters bearing a fake signature of Pope John Paul II[edit]

I have several images of documents that were published in the 1980s as genuine and exposed as forgeries; both the forgeries and the official Vatican response denouncing them as such were published by me in 1990 GuyStairSainty (talk) 14:59, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @GuyStairSainty: It may be more helpful if you could specify the files and the source that they are forgeries. They may still have an educational use as prominent fakes, but if the matter is settled, then they should obviously be identified as inauthentic. GMGtalk 15:14, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @GuyStairSainty: do I understand correctly that these are things you are proposing to upload, rather than things that are already on Commons? And, if so, do you have any preliminary understanding of their copyright status (since we are unlikely to get a license from a forger)? - Jmabel ! talk 20:10, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image upload[edit]

Hello, I want to upload a picture of a famous Georgian composer in wikipedia page. I have located the photo in Google, under burusi.wordpress.com The owner or the initial source is not indicated on the website. Please advise how I can proceed? Konstantine B (talk) 20:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Konstantine B: Hi,
We need the formal written permission for a free license from the picture copyright owner. Please see COM:VRT for the procedure. Once you got the permission, you can upload the file and mention the ticket number. Then the permission will be validated by one of the volunteer. Yann (talk) 20:22, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And if you can't establish who owns the copyright, then the image does not belong on Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 22:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Writing on the photos taken from Wikipedia commons.[edit]

Before, we could download the free images and photos taken from Wikipedia commons and write a title over them with the ¨paint¨ system coming with windows 10. It was extremely useful. Now, this advantage has disappeared, which make all those free images totally useless at least for me. What system can we use to write explanations on those photos? Is it prohibited? Have they been made useless on purpose and why? (They are free photos!) Thank you to inform me. Monsieur Lamaire (talk) 00:27, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Monsieur Lamaire: I'm quite confused. Are you talking about (a) something that has changed within Wikimedia Commons, or (b) something that is different about whatever (unspecified) operating system you are now using than it was in Windows 10, or (c) about something that has changed in later releases of Windows 10? (and by the way, it's "Wikimedia Commons" not "Wikipedia Commons".) - Jmabel ! talk 04:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright issue- Consent not given[edit]

Good day,

I've recently found out that my work has been used on this site without my permission which has created another problem where another organisation is using it without consent. How do I get it taken down? 41.216.203.147 10:40, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Could you please mention which work? Yann (talk) 10:59, 19 December 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]